Rafale shot down Su-30MKI in air combat without rules

Rafale shot down Su-30MKI in air combat without rules

Russian Su-30MKI fighter jets are inferior to the French Rafale in technical indicators. This forced the Indian Ministry of Defense to make a choice in favor of the latter, writes the Indian edition of The Economic Times.

Last week, the Supreme Court of India confirmed the legality of the contract of the government of Narendra Modi to buy 36 French Rafale fighters for 8.3 billion. Dollars. Petitions of opponents of the deal from the ranks of the opposition, which were mainly confused by its price, were deemed unworthy of attention.

The Economic Times calls the acquisition of French planes a “very profitable deal.”

Comparing the Russian Su-30MKI and the French Rafale, the authors of the material point out that the Russian aircraft has only one advantage – it is cheaper. In other respects, the “Frenchman” is supposedly superior.

In particular, it is argued that the ability for a long-term barrage in Rafale is one and a half times higher than that of the Su-30MKI, and the range of flight is 780-1055 km against 400-550 km for the Russian fighter. In addition, Rafale will allow to make up to five combat flights in a day, while the Russian – up to three. Weapon Rafale surpasses all other weapons systems in the region and will give India the opportunity to hit Pakistani aircraft at a great distance without threat. to be noticed. In addition, the SCALP air-to-surface missile will be able to hit targets on Pakistani soil with absolute precision,” the newspaper writes.

Since 2012, French Dassault has been negotiating with the Indian state corporation Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) about the joint production of 126 aircraft with the transfer of technology. As a result, in 2015, an agreement was reached between then French President Francois Hollande and Narendra Modi to buy 36 fighter jets manufactured in France. That then led the Indian opposition to accuse the government of depriving India of both the necessary aircraft and technology. Because the state corporation of India also remained virtually out of business.

However, in January 2016, the parties signed a contract comprising 28 single-seater aircraft and eight double-doubles for the exercise. They are expected to come in multiple batches from 2019 to 2022.

On October 8, Izvestia recalled the handover ceremony of the first Rafale fighter jet at the headquarters of the French aircraft manufacturer Dassault Aviation in Merignac. Indian Defense Minister Rajnath Singh said the event was a “historic day for the Indian armed forces.”

Interestingly, before that Delhi, as far as is known, consider buying additional Su-30MKI fighters, which would cost India more than three times cheaper than the French Rafale. The cost of one Rafale for Delhi is about 240 million. Su-30MKI – about 70 million dollars. Dollars.

The price attractiveness and reliability of Russian “Sasaki” compared to the French Rafale at one time was emphasized by Indian Foreign Minister Vijay Kumar Singh.

What are the critics of Russian aircraft based on now? And how objective are their arguments?

“It is clear that approaches can be different here,” commented the honored military pilot of the Russian Federation, Major General Vladimir Popov. “A lot depends on what combat tasks and opportunities you want to accomplish.

The question is where the authors took the data they used in their material, comparing Russian and French fighter jets. Apparently, advertising agencies. And then it is clear why Rafale they have superior Su-30MKI.

We have a lot of tactical and technical data are in stealth mode. This is the first.

Secondly, the taste and color, as they say, there are no comrades. Everyone has their own interests. And someone is lobbying them from state and financial authorities.

Also, we should not forget that India has been cooperating with Europe militarily and technically for a long time.
But Russia is also an important partner, given that more than 70% of the weapons, military equipment of the Indian army, air force, navy – Russian and Soviet-made.

“Absolutely. They have paid attention to our equipment, including aviation equipment, before.

Today, the Indian Air Force has about two hundred active Su-30MKI. And recently they decided to purchase 18 more aircraft of this modification.

Our Su-30, Su-35, are good cars. Their quality indicators are recognized both in Europe and even in the United States. Why suddenly there are problems with India, it is difficult for me to guess. But perhaps someone’s commercial or political interests played a role here.

“TP”: “But it would be more logical to give preference to the Russian Su-30MKI, as India has the capacity to produce and maintain it. In addition, this aircraft is well known to Indian pilots…

“In any case, they should know that this aircraft has no competitors in the melee. In terms of supermaneuverability, they are superior to almost all Western counterparts, including Rafale.

With quality parameters for the range and duration of the flight, perhaps, some points are in their favor.

The fact is that our engines are more reliable in combat conditions and operation. But a little heavier than those samples (actually analogs) that are in the West.

We know that. Therefore, several Kb sare on these issues. And no wonder they say that the fifth generation of aircraft will be used as new engines – completely different in quality and efficiency. They will surpass the ones we are using today.
But Russia is also an important partner, given that more than 70% of the weapons, military equipment of the Indian army, air force, navy – Russian and Soviet-made.

“Absolutely. They have paid attention to our equipment, including aviation equipment, before.

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Today, the Indian Air Force has about two hundred active Su-30MKI. And recently they decided to purchase 18 more aircraft of this modification.

Our Su-30, Su-35, are good cars. Their quality indicators are recognized both in Europe and even in the United States. Why suddenly there are problems with India, it is difficult for me to guess. But perhaps someone’s commercial or political interests played a role here.

“TP”: “But it would be more logical to give preference to the Russian Su-30MKI, as India has the capacity to produce and maintain it. In addition, this aircraft is well known to Indian pilots…

“In any case, they should know that this aircraft has no competitors in the melee. In terms of supermaneuverability, they are superior to almost all Western counterparts, including Rafale.

With quality parameters for the range and duration of the flight, perhaps, some points are in their favor.

The fact is that our engines are more reliable in combat conditions and operation. But a little heavier than those samples (actually analogs) that are in the West.

We know that. Therefore, several Kb sare on these issues. And no wonder they say that the fifth generation of aircraft will be used as new engines – completely different in quality and efficiency. They will surpass those that we still use today. On our aircraft, we have small-gun weapons, short-range missiles (both guided and unguided) and medium-range air-to-air, and we can also use bomber-weapons – bombs both guided and conventional Ballistic.

That is, we have a large very range of applications of means of defeat. What can not be said about modern aircraft of Western countries in general?

It turns out, making a choice, not in our favor, Hindus only make themselves more expensive.

French fighter jets in operation are quite complex. Ours is much simpler. In addition, India already has instructors trained on our planes, they know the whole method of the training flight crew.

The choice in favor of French cars is all the more incomprehensible…

Yes, I do. But what political tasks the Indian government and the Ministry of Defense have, we do not know to comment on it. As they decide, it’s their business.

Perhaps they just want to have an option of aviation equipment, which is different from our option, then this “conglomerate” to use in the complex. Openly they do not talk about it but use their interpretation: like our Su-30MKI – worse.

But in service, as I said, these planes are. And a lot. Moreover, the licensed production of these fighters is already functioning. That is, Indian pilots have the ability to fully appreciate the superiority of our aircraft over Western aircraft.

Another thing is that they may want to use the technology that they will acquire with French planes on their cars. That’s what they do in China. Acquire several types of technology, and then “invent” and produce improved analogs.

I do not rule out that India is interested in such a direction, but they cover their goals with various explanations.

We would buy a few samples, if so. But here is a contract for a colossal sum – 8 billion. Dollars…

“They will have an aviation regiment of these vehicles. But, in principle, it is justified. Two or three planes don’t mean anything. But when you have a large batch, then the service is otherwise organized by the supplier state. Then some technologies can be transferred in order to quickly put them into operation. Or better to exploit

Of course, they want technology. Perhaps, in comparison with our technologies, it will be useful even for them.

And what is intentional, understated the characteristics of our fighters, so it is also for a reason.

Most likely, we did not meet them on further reduction of the price component of our aircraft in general and in armament, in particular. Perhaps there was a desire to get, roughly speaking, a speculative price for those machines that we could present to them if anything.
I mean, they assumed we wouldn’t have a way out. And they have put their priorities above friendly relations. Although we have been cooperating in the military-technical sphere for a long time, everything was successful before that.

But much still depends on political ambitions. I don’t rule out something we might not have known. We don’t take it into account. The East, in principle, is a delicate matter, so we have to think – why, where and what we missed…

But, in any case, our prestige will not affect it in any way.

There are queues behind our planes. Drying of various modifications has long gained great popularity on the international market. Not only India buys them from us, but also China, Vietnam, Algeria, Indonesia, Malaysia, Kazakhstan and a number of other countries.

Now Dubai will host another air show, I think that there and the Middle East will pull up. We are already negotiating with the United Arab Emirates on the supply of the Su-35 and the creation of a fifth-generation light fighter for the benefit of the UAE.

Yet, as we say, the Latin American market is waking up. There, too, show great interest in our military equipment.

Therefore, we will not lose much from the fact that suddenly India refused from one batch of planes. With India, we have other contracts, in particular, for the supply of S-400 missile defense systems for almost 5.5 billion. Dollars.

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